I agree the mechanics of the gameplay are completely different

NOPE. Still 720p on XBone.
Proof: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-hands-on-with-battlefield-1-on-console

A very simple comparison of two different games with two different production values. One took about 5 years to make, the other one took about a year. I hope you get my drift.

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First and foremost, I’m a consumer. I care about the goods I buy, I don’t spend my money on over-priced products just because it looks good and casual people are buying to show off until the next minor iteration comes out; I buy items because I know the value of the product is worth the features it provides me.

“If you aren’t happy with minor iterations then you will never be happy with gaming again”

I would like to answer your quote (which I did not reshape it in any way or form and I mean no offense or disrespect) is one of the most dumb comments I’ve heard this year. So, are you happy with yearly minor iterations of games? Do you like to pay for full price games which do not bring the same longevity or enjoyment as it’s predecessor? Did you buy No Man Sky?

I’m sorry, but I don’t like this type of business deals, I prefer to wait until a bigger and better iteration of a game to come out or at least a casual gamer sells his game back to Gamestop or on Craigslist, so I can buy it for $20. It worked out with BF4 and it’s not too long until I buy BF1, some places are selling it for $35 bucks.

I had some work come in so I won’t have time to come to a full reply for a while so I’m only going to address 2 and 3. The big vehicles are just player controlled versions of BF4’s “levelution”, instead of a building falling in our faces we get giant vehicles. It’s much more fun when these big changes are player controlled. Also unlike Battlefront where the AT-AT’s are the whole objective, in Battlefield 1 the vehicles are a crutch for a short duration so the ‘similarity’ here is pretty far fetched. As for the trenches, because you think they are under utilized tells me you haven’t really spent much time with the game. They do in fact have game modes for trench warfare and no man’s land. It’s called operations and it’s a hell of a lot of fun.

Lol what? Who is EDMIX? I’ve seriously never heard of the person and I browse N4G somewhat frequently. I like you claim this EDMIX person makes up BS but here you are making up BS yourself.

Also what is it with you and the stupid engine! Learn how fucking game engines work you idiot. Just because they didn’t rebuild the engine doesn’t mean a damn thing. Hint: rebuilding an engine for every single game is hands down the dumbest thing to do in the game industry. Or should automakers reinvent the wheel every time they come out with a new car?

haha thanks for the tip. This article isn’t shitting on BF1 in fact it’s because I want the next games to be good. If he can’t see that then oh well!

Dont worry about him that is EDMIX from N4G he’s a sore loser. Look his comments on N4G he’s going beserk bc you talked truth about his favorite game and he knows he got ripped off. DICE had 18 months to make a AAA game there is no way they did a complete overhaul of the engine, they just re-skinned it.

EDMIX rants goe on and on forever without making any sense, and he really thinks he’s smart because he comes up with so much BS.

1. No I am not complaining that the game is bug and glitch free and don’t stretch my words to say that. I am saying that Battlefield lost it’s “feeling” that it has had for pretty much every iteration previous to this one. It plays too similarly to Battlefront, and the franchises are starting to meld into the same feeling.

2. That still was more supposed to represent how similar the games look when it comes to style, not necessarily a focus on the trench aspect, but I will tackle that too.

To be honest, I feel like trenches were underutilized in BF1’s multiplayer. They are there but there should have been whole maps or even a mode dedicated to pure trench warfare, or at least they could have designed the gameplay more around that significant tactic of WW1. Instead of using that thing to stand out they were just thrown in because of the time period and then fairly ignored afterwards. Can you imagine how intense a No Man’s Land map would be? Peek your head out even for a second and it’s gone. There is almost no way to swarm the enemy side and it would change the way players are playing the game.

3. You’re right, the Zeppelin and Dreadnaught and such are player-controlled, and that is a nice small change. That doesn’t change the fact that they are very similar gameplay mechanics – and ones that Battlefield has never really had.

4. You’re right, they both had vehicles. The similarities between how the vehicles handle is my worry. The vehicles don’t feel the same as they did. That arcadey feeling is what I don’t like.

5. This is a bad thing. It removed an essential part of the Battlefield experience. In previous Battlefields, getting into a jet or a helicopter after you learned how to fly them gave you a very commanding feeling. Learning them was rewarding and it was a skill that would put you at an advantage over other players who don’t know them as well as you. Here in BF1 jumping in a plane has no meaning. It’s simple and anyone can do it and you have people just flying around doing nothing in them. At least in the previous games those who didn’t know how to fly would be brought down very quickly and would go off and do something else.

6. Fonts are just the start of the conversation. My complaints obviously stretch past that. The game is solid, but a lot of that comes from the fact that DICE brought over a lot from Battlefront instead of building Battlefield it’s own solid foundation. The point is that even on top of everything else they couldn’t even create their own UI for the game. I am a design student with some studies in UI so I do focus on those things a lot and they do create a feeling/atmosphere.

7. I think that 3 or 4 years is a good time to jump onto a new one, my worry is that people are just going to jump between each iteration of the two franchises each year. Instead of Battlefront or Battlefield going yearly, they would be going every other year. EA still achieves the same success from going yearly as the two games would be taking from one another instead of each game getting it’s own development cycle with it’s own assets and such. That is just speculation and I hope i’m wrong but there is cause for worry. As for Overwatch, that is true but that is also the reason for me (and others) wanting to play it and invest in it. We found a style of gameplay that really works and that we have fallen in love with and we want to stick with it, rather than have it undergo drastic changes through sequels.

You’re right, games have nowhere to go but forward, however if the developers can’t think of where to move forward, maybe it isn’t time for a sequel yet. The nice thing about Overwatch is that I know (based on Blizzard’s track record, it is possible for this to change) that there will not be a sequel unless Blizzard has some very game-changing ideas that they think will enhance the gameplay experience, instead of us getting sequels with small changes in each one.

Me too. It is still a fun experience, but a shallow one.

Overwatch is a great time. Definitely take advantage of that deal.

Didn’t play the beta – but I will say that Battlefield 1 is a very fun game. I think you should try it out again before making final judgement.

I agree Battlefront 2 should have an awesome story that they actually put time and effort into.

Wow dude. You have literally zero understanding of how a game engine works. Need For Speed used the Frostbite engine, please tell me how that is a reskin of the Battlefield series.

Do you have any freaking clue what you are talking about? Why does a different universe require a different engine? Do you realize a vast majority of games are only made on 3 big name engines even though they are all in different universes? I think you need to look in a mirror to see who the clown is…

I kept in the dark on BF1 purposefully, and wasn’t planning on getting it until around Christmas. It wasn’t until my roommate got it right after release that I was able to try it.

“Oh yea, author, battlefield is supposed to be like battlefront. Battlefront was Star Wars battlefield. Anyone who thought that this would be something more than a reskin didn’t understand what we were buying.” – This is the exact issue i’m talking about. Battlefield 2 and Battlefront 2 played very different from each other back in 2005. Why now should they be the same game? They are supposed to be different franchises.

“I’ve only been exposed to a fraction of the Battlefield series, but I totally think this new one doesn’t feel like Battlefield”

I’ve played all of them since the first (1942), with the exception of 2142, and this still feels like a Battlefield game in every way. Yes some small things like flying mechanics are slightly simplified but that’s not always a bad thing.

And please tell, what game isn’t a copy of another in this day and age? If you aren’t happy with minor iterations then you will never be happy with gaming again.

When I found out they only had 18 months to develop a Triple-A game with the same engine as before I knew what time it was, re-skin time

I doubt it too, but there is always the possibility for a spin-off. Maybe Visceral has been working on something like Hardline? Who knows.

I highly doubt there is going to be another Battlefield in 2017, as you stated there is Battlefront 2 coming and the last DLC for DICE games usually drops in November or December of the following year after release.

It’s a real shame. Battlefield 1 is still a real fun time, it just sucks that EA got their hands on the series so long ago.

I really really hope that isn’t the case as we also have Battlefront 2 coming. Would be a real shame!

You should borrow a copy from a friend or something, the beta was a horrible representation of the game (I had decided not to buy the game from the beta), but then they had the 10 hour trial on Origin before the launch and I fell in love with the game. The map featured in the beta is the only snipe fest map.

What are you rattling on about? There have been many gems this gen. Look at witcher 3 and blood borne.